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Before the 1st and 2nd dissension of the Holy Spirit like on Hannah, Samuel, David and the Protestants there were:
1: prophecy
2: visions
3: dream visions
4: dreams
With the baptism of the Holy Spirit and the signs of tongues came:
(what we rarely think about)
5. word of wisdom
6. word of knowledge
7. gift of faith
8. gift of healing
9. working of miracles
10. discerning of spirits
(what we usually think about)
11: the Holy Spirit interceding for you in front of the Father about things that you couldn't possibly predict that hell has planned for you, by the will of the Father, with some having the ability to translate it
12. the Holy Spirit prophesying to a person standing nearby you in another language while you are praying in tongues
13. a two part
one line prophesying
one line praying in tongues
one line prophesying
one line praying in tongues
&
first person prophesying
second person praying in tongues
first person prophesying
second person praying in tongues
(what we never think about)
14. angels speaking to us in-between tongues
[1 Peter 1:10-12]
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There is absolutely nothing mysterious about Biblical "tongues" â and there is only one type â when referring to something spoken, they are nothing more than real, rational language(s); usually, but not always, unknown to those listening to them, but always known by the speaker(s) â itâs their native language (in some cases, it is a language the speaker has learned).
In contrast, the âtonguesâ Pentecostal and Charismatic Christians are producing today is an entirely self-created phenomenon. It is non-cognitive non-language utterance; random free vocalization based upon a subset of the existing underlying sounds (called phonemes) of the speakerâs native language, and any other language(s) the speaker may be familiar with or have had contact with.
It is, in part, typically characterized by repetitive syllables, plays on sound patterns, alliteration, assonance, and over-simplification of syllable structure. It is also interesting to note that any and all phonological rules (rules governing how sounds are put together in a given language - what is allowed and what is disallowed) governing a speaker's native language, will also govern their tongues-speech.
Further, this subset of phonemes mentioned above typically contains only those sounds which are easiest to produce physiologically.
Occasionally some speakers will use two or more subsets of phonemes to generate glossolalia, producing what, to them, sounds like two (or more) distinct âtongues languagesâ, thus claiming to be able to speak in âdivers tonguesâ.
There is absolutely nothing that âtongues-speakersâ are producing that cannot be explained in relatively simple linguistic terms.
Conversely, when it comes to something spoken, there are absolutely no Biblical references to âtonguesâ that do not refer to, and cannot be explained in light of, real rational language(s), though it may not be the explanation you want to hear, and it may be one which is radically different from what you believe, or were taught. Nowhere in the Bible is modern tongues-speech advocated or evidenced.
âPraying in the Spiritâ does not refer to the words one is saying. Rather, it refers to how one is praying. In the three places it is used (Corinthians, Ephesians, and Jude), there is absolutely zero reference to 'languages' in connection with this phrase. âPraying in the Spiritâ should be understood as praying in the power of the Spirit, by the leading of the Spirit, and according to His will.
I'm not doubting or questioning the 'tongues experience'; glossolalia as the spiritual tool that it is, can be very powerful and, for many people, the experience is profound. As one commenter put it, âSpeaking in tongues distracts the ego/analytical/conscious mind while leaving the subconscious (the heart) wide open to import the divine." Both the spiritual and physical benefits of using this tool are also well documented. Again though, it is important to note that this same statement can be made for virtually any other culture that practices glossolalia. Religious and cultural differences aside, the glossolalia an Evenki Shaman in Siberia, a vodoun priestess in Togo and a Christian tongues-speaker in Alabama are producing are in no way different from each other. Theyâre all producing their glossolalia in the exact same way; they just have different explanations and beliefs as to why theyâre doing it, and where it comes from. It is only in certain Christian denominations where is it construed as something it never was.
âTonguesâ (read, âlanguagesâ ) â the divine gift, is the God given ability to effortlessly learn to speak and be understood through real-language barriers. It is not xenoglossy, nor is it modern tongues-speech.
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Itâs the evidence that you received the Holy Ghost. The same Spirit (the Spirit of God. God is holy so itâs the Holy Spirit) that was poured out on the Day of Pentecost in the upper room. After a Jesus ascended He wanted to be IN us bc He could no longer be WITH us. So He gave us His Spirit to live IN us. Itâs being born of the Spirit. It needs no interpreter and not to be confused with one of the 9 gifts of the Spirit that is mentioned in I Corinthians 12 and then again in 14 which do need an interpretation
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@stephaniemcgowan-paskins4065
2 months ago
He is absolutely right. It happens to me and my husband. Most Christian churches donât believe this or say they believe it, but when it manifests they tell you to stop because itâs you speaking not them or their associates. Theyâre stopping the presence of the Holy Spirit, but they canât stop it in me, because Jesus Christ gave it to me when I was twenty two years old in 1975. Praise and bless the Lord Jesus Christ.
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