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Ā Ā Ā ā¢Ā MichaelĀ FinnissyĀ onĀ theĀ SamuelĀ Andrey...Ā Ā
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Genre: Music
Uploaded At May 22, 2022 ^^
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RYD date created : 2022-07-31T13:36:05.738315Z
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If the audience is educated on a specific art,they will recognize the methods used in the art and will be astonished by the artistic genius of the artist,if part of the audience is not art educated,they will get astonished by the artistic result,and they will perceive it as magic,without being able to tell how this level of magic was achieved.This kind of magic in my opinion is more beautiful and mysterious than being astonished by recognizing someone's artistic methods.Artists techniques are not done to impress, but to express themselves with more precision and burden their emotional palettes.And then ,art teachers try to break down this magic,in order to tell next artist generation how this achieved in order to burden their knowledge and get them inspired for their future works.
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āThe audienceā is an enormously generalised concept, thereās not really such a thing in my opinion. Listeners are not a homogenous mass. Boulez used similar language as this video and sometimes it becomes a bit sourā¦
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The beauty of Samuel Andreyevās compositions is exactly that: interesting musical events. Also, the influence of pop culture on the audienceās artistic experience in general should not be underestimated.
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Levels, Jerry! Levels!
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Listen with your heart, not your analytical mind. Save the analytics for the 100th listen! Much more rewarding...
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How can you possibly expect people who aren't trained (for the most part) in music theory and composition to see what the composer is doing? Especially with the very complex music that is written today.
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Wrong. āI want to get to the stage where nobody can tell how a picture of mine is done. Whatās the point of that? Simply that I want nothing but emotion given off by it.ā - Picasso
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even if logically sound, I don't think his painting analogy is correct
One big difference is whether the artists intention is actually perceivable
The painter's way of applying paint to the canvas CAN be seen. You can look at it close up, for as long as you can, as close as you can. That is still within the realm of appreciating the art visually.
During performance of a piece(especially Finnisy), unfortunately human ears are simply not designed to detect complex patterns and pitch organization by hearing. If you want to examine that, you will have to go to the score and study it note by note, which by that point it is no longer within the realm of the listening experience of music.
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Any piece of "art"
painting, music, architecture etc.
can be looked at in many ways
There are some pieces of art that
I gaze at and look at the brush strokes
or read the score and try to work it out.
But those are definitely the minority of pieces of work
I will mostly especially on first encountering a piece
be looking at the "bigger picture"
trying to get to grips with it.
Placing it in its context trying to understand it
Questions of enjoyment and emotional fulfillment
tend to dominate at least initially.
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As I was saying to another commenter, I believe what he is trying to communicate here is that many people when they listen to a piece of music miss a very important aspect of the work, especially in this contemporary classical landscape in which texture so often trumps tonality - they focus too heavily on their perceived notions of what the work is trying to do, and completely gloss over how it is done. The great thing about music is that the imagery of a work can be given equal status to technique, or to put it in more elegant terms, the journey is as important or more important as the destination.
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You mean, when people encounter a work for the first time, they observe the general mood and don't try to figure out every tiny detail? Who'da thunk!
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He is correct. This is what people mean when they say "art made for the artist, not the audience'. This is why extremely complex and intricate work will never be mainstream. The mainstream audience doesn't understand the complexities, they don't know it's happening, so they can't possibly appreciate that aspect. Writing a song in a crazy time signature doesn't sound like a crazy time signature, it just sounds awkward to them. For people who know what 7/8 sounds like are impressed by the technical achievement. Someone who doesn't know anything about time signature won't know. And the reason artists create it and others like it is because of the technical, complex, impressive construction of the piece. The layman likes songs that sounds nice. They don't listen to what the composer is doing because they don't know what a composer does.
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Transparency of process.
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Nice one.
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Itās the sneering by āelitesā that is distasteful.
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Before giving an opinion on the matter the question on the purpose of art would have to be discussed not to mention the subject of what comes first , the art or the artist?
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This is why surface level art can sell and why deep pieces of art can go misunderstood.
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I donāt agree that audiences should need to learn to appreciate this sort of brush stroke in order to be impacted properly by the work. Thatās the case with many contemporary works, but not at all of a Giotto for instance. The creator knows about how the paint is applied, the viewer recieves the impact via all the means the work itself deploys. Mozartās music appeals to the lowest Kenner and the highest Liebhaber at once. Thatās better.
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He's on a higher plane than the rest of us. What's really interesting is that people enjoy music for different reasons.
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@samuel_andreyev
2 years ago
Is he right?.. is he wrong..? Let me know in the comments! ā”ļø
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