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Not sure 'area dedicated to parks' is the best metric from green cities. Oslo might have a lot of parks, but if I streetview around the city center of Oslo, I see a disturbing number of streets without trees.
Meanwhile in Amsterdam you'll be hardpressed to find any streets without green in them, even with significantly fewer area dedicated to parks.
Having to go out of your way to find green doesn't seem very optimal to me. Greener streets are far more valuable.
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As an Edinburgh resident, very happy to see the city on the list! It's something that I noticed when I moved here, there's so much green space. It's a very walkable city too, and the public transport is great. Sadly a lot of planning measures are still quite car centric, and drivers have shitty attitudes when it comes to cycling. Things are slowly getting better but it's still a long way off! Although I know how much better it is than a lot of other places in the world, especially the car centric hellscapes in the US that I see on here and on Not Just Bikes.
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Percentage of people who have access to a park within a small distance should be incorporated to get a clear picture. Because if a city have a national park or a mountain range well outside of the city, yet within city limits, that city will have huge % of parks but it does not give you the correct picture. Also different cities define parks in different ways.
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I've been thinking about this video a lot. Of course no methodology is perfect, but it's kind of funny that Istanbul has "2% parks" even though they have expansive green areas outside city limits (granted those city limits are huge, and a lot of that green space is occupied by logging monocultures). Oslo is similarly built-up (albeit over a smaller area), but the city limits extend to expansive green areas, liked a scaled-down Istanbul but with the same pattern of a strong urban-rural boundary. Looks to be similar for Vienna. I'm really shocked Hong Kong didn't make this list as well. By visual inspection of this list on the map, it still looks like most of the cities do deserve to be on this list, with Singapore, Edinburgh, and to a lesser extent, Sydney, really sticking out for intermingling built-up areas with access well-preserved green spaces
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I'm in Vienna but ... where are those parks? There's concrete and brick wherever you go. :/ I think the better part of that number falls under the forested areas that are included in the wider city district (and not in the city itself). The parks within the city itself are ... not that impressive (excluding Prater).
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Not necessarily so simple where the higher percentage dedicated to parks means it’s a better city for parks. It depends on other factors like the quality of those parks. A city can have (let’s say) 50% land dedicated to parks, but what if the 50% consists of poor quality parks? Or parks inaccessible to certain groups (e.g. mainly healthy adults, not the disabled or elderly)? Or parks with poor amenities (e.g. few bathrooms, few water fountains)? Or parks that allow for walking and hiking but don’t allow for much biking? Or don’t allow for pets? And so on and so forth. These are just a few examples. Main point is it really depends how a city uses and develops the land it dedicates to parks, not just the sheer percentage. But maybe there is a longer video available that goes into much more detail. I’m only commenting on this specific short clip.
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I think this data is incredibly suspect, starting from the first "what is a city" (metro area, built up area, subdivision area) followed by simply looking at Oslo and Edinburgh on Google - With Oslo they must be counting land outside the Oslo city limits, for Edinburgh they must be counting golf courses as parks, which isn't fair at all as they are not open to free access at all and in fact represent one of the most inequitable usage of land in a city as relatively few people can use them at once.
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@tower454545
1 year ago
Can you do the same but with parking lots? I'm sure some US cities are over 50% parking lots.
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